Rollup broke Media Center Again

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Post by guho » Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:49 am

kns wrote:
Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:35 am
My solution will be to decommission WMC on win 8.1 and to give the latest .msi WMC package a try on a fresh install of windows 10. I thank the heroes of this thread for the tips and recommendations they have shared. KNS
I am fairly certain, unless something changed, that WMC CableCard with premium channels, such as HBO, is only possible up to Windows 10 1511 (we're at 21H2 now).

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Post by TGsell » Sat Oct 08, 2022 4:29 pm

KNS - I have been running WMC on Win (1511!!! no later) on a 'miniPC' (actually two) and they run flawlessly. You need to lock out updates obviously but these machines are dedicated to WMC nothing else so there's little security risk, etc. Also, at the start I thought I could load Win8.1 Pro on these machines and run official WMC ,,,, however... no go... I could not find any suitable video drivers for Win 8 for these boxes which were designed long after win8 came out. I am sure you knew all this... if anyone has a way to insure you can find video drivers for Win8.1 on new machines let me know please... just curious.

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Post by DavidinCT » Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:00 pm

And this is why I disabled Windows updates on my Windows 8.1 PC....
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Post by mustpushbuttons » Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:19 pm

IT Troll wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:52 am
I just took the plunge and installed the September 2022-09 updates on Windows 8. All appears to be well. I jumped straight from June to September skipping the two bad months.
October security rollup success. no issues w WMC.

Also... just 2 months until WIN7 is dead. cable card + WMC / MC7 has been great. Still use and enjoy this old POS since day 1 in 2004 (XP MCE). Ubisoft ended WIN7 support in June. Steam support, chromium support for win7 also ends in Jan. End of an era. Win 8 WMC, the red headed step child now sorta looks appealing... ok not really.

WARNING: RANT AHEAD

OTT streaming here I come! ugggggghhhh user tracking, marketing creepers collecting not so anonymized data, reselling, forever in the belly of the beast - all just to sell ad space, serve ads and to sell more shyte.

Tom cruise walks past a store window in the movie Minority Report, the window talks to him "How's that shirt working for ya? come on in Tom" and every street cam/ surveillance cam tracks his every move. Sound familiar? HAHA!

When normal folks started asking me which cryptocurrency I was buying back in Nov 2021... I knew we peaked. Nasdaq 100 peaked. It all peaked. Now, Oct 2022 entering 2023 the planet is awash in debt, 100's of trillions of debt in the form of treasuries, CLO's, CDO's and CDS's - the instruments NGO's, govt central bankers resell - now chasing buyers in a rapidly shrinking global consumption engine + liquidity backdrop. The total toxic debt back in 2007''s 'too big to fail' crisis was only 700 Billion. Competition for shrinking consumer dollars will be fierce as we enter this never before seen cycle.

Ahem... sorry, a bit off topic there. So with OTT, sure, content is king but only to harvest end user data that is to be further weaponized against us all. Yay! GL all.

The End.

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Post by IT Troll » Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:34 pm

Yeah, the October Cumulative Update appears to be fine, it contains the same ehtrace.dll 6.3.9600.20565 dated 11-Aug-2022 which was added in the September update.

Only three more updates to go. If you want to stop the nags about support ending you can add the following registry entry.

Code: Select all

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\EOSNotify]
"DiscontinueEOS"=dword:00000001
For belt and braces, you can also disable the two scheduled tasks found under Task Library > Microsoft > Windows > Setup
  • EOSNotify
  • EOSNotify2
These are configured to trigger every login and every day.
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Post by Paint » Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:03 pm

mustpushbuttons wrote:
Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:19 pm
IT Troll wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:52 am
I just took the plunge and installed the September 2022-09 updates on Windows 8. All appears to be well. I jumped straight from June to September skipping the two bad months.
October security rollup success. no issues w WMC.

Also... just 2 months until WIN7 is dead. cable card + WMC / MC7 has been great. Still use and enjoy this old POS since day 1 in 2004 (XP MCE). Ubisoft ended WIN7 support in June. Steam support, chromium support for win7 also ends in Jan. End of an era. Win 8 WMC, the red headed step child now sorta looks appealing... ok not really.

WARNING: RANT AHEAD

OTT streaming here I come! ugggggghhhh user tracking, marketing creepers collecting not so anonymized data, reselling, forever in the belly of the beast - all just to sell ad space, serve ads and to sell more shyte.

Tom cruise walks past a store window in the movie Minority Report, the window talks to him "How's that shirt working for ya? come on in Tom" and every street cam/ surveillance cam tracks his every move. Sound familiar? HAHA!

When normal folks started asking me which cryptocurrency I was buying back in Nov 2021... I knew we peaked. Nasdaq 100 peaked. It all peaked. Now, Oct 2022 entering 2023 the planet is awash in debt, 100's of trillions of debt in the form of treasuries, CLO's, CDO's and CDS's - the instruments NGO's, govt central bankers resell - now chasing buyers in a rapidly shrinking global consumption engine + liquidity backdrop. The total toxic debt back in 2007''s 'too big to fail' crisis was only 700 Billion. Competition for shrinking consumer dollars will be fierce as we enter this never before seen cycle.

Ahem... sorry, a bit off topic there. So with OTT, sure, content is king but only to harvest end user data that is to be further weaponized against us all. Yay! GL all.

The End.
While I know Win7 is EOL and Win8 is soon to be, I'm concerned and confused a bit by your post.

I run Win7 x64 with two ceton infinitv 6 pcie cable cards. In two months you are saying it will stop working? I didnt think that was the case.... I know cablecards are being phased out since they arent required to be offered by the FCC... but not sure why everything will stop working when I use EPG123 and control my ESP windows updates.... let me know if you know differently.

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Post by ryegrass » Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:27 pm

@Paint
Windows 7 won't stop working in two months, it just won't continue to receive Extended Security Updates (ESU) after that date.

P.S. The rumor is that Microsoft may still continue the ESU program.

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Post by Paint » Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:46 pm

ryegrass wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:27 pm
@Paint
Windows 7 won't stop working in two months, it just won't continue to receive Extended Security Updates (ESU) after that date.

P.S. The rumor is that Microsoft may still continue the ESU program.
they probably will - the program was a huge money maker for them. thank you

none of this really affects us besides cable cards going away....

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#189

Post by Paint » Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:55 am

Anyone try the latest 2022-11 roll-up packages?

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Post by ryegrass » Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:22 pm

Paint wrote:
Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:55 am
Anyone try the latest 2022-11 roll-up packages?
The Windows 7 x64 Rollup KB5020000 didn't have any adverse effects on WMC, and I haven't had any other problems (that I know about) so far.

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Post by prsa01 » Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:12 am

ryegrass wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:22 pm
Paint wrote:
Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:55 am
Anyone try the latest 2022-11 roll-up packages?
The Windows 7 x64 Rollup KB5020000 didn't have any adverse effects on WMC, and I haven't had any other problems (that I know about) so far.
Appreciate the info. Nice to know when it is safe to install the newest updates.

Thanks

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#192

Post by IT Troll » Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:39 pm

Seems fine on Windows 8. I always download the file list now and give it a quick once over. It comes as a CSV so can be easily sorted and filtered. This is good for spotting changes to Media Center files, but doesn't rule out MS breaking some other critical component.
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#193

Post by ryegrass » Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:29 am

Firefox says the Security Certificate for this page expired today (12/2/22).
Edit: It's fixed now.

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