Ceton InfiniTV 6 PCIe Now Available

[makryger]

The six-tuner version Ceton InfiniTV PCIe is now available for purchase!

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[golfdude]

does this support win 7 and 8 tuner pooling like the eth?

[kd6icz]

What is pooling? Is that the reason the ETH exists?? I thought the ETH was a stupid idea that wouldn't work the first time I saw it... So I waited for the PCIe. All that HD video on a network just seems like trouble to me. But I most likely don't understand the big picture.

[xnappo]

What is pooling? Is that the reason the ETH exists?? I thought the ETH was a stupid idea that wouldn't work the first time I saw it... So I waited for the PCIe. All that HD video on a network just seems like trouble to me. But I most likely don't understand the big picture.

Tuner pooling is allowing more than one HTPC to dynamically use the tuners.

If you only plan to have one HTPC and use extenders, then not much point to the ETH version.

However if you are going to use multiple HTPCs instead of extenders it is great. I would love to have one in my closet where the cable comes into my house - then I would move my router and cable modem there too. This would get rid of my amp, and the tilt issues that come with the long cable run to where my HTPC is.

Unfortunately a requirement for me to move from extenders to this scheme is that you can record the same channel on multiple HTPCs to get around CCI BS. However at this time tuning the same channel on more than one tuner causes massive macroblocking.

xnappo

[mcewinter]

The ETH is also good if you wish to build a small HTPC, very much like what Barnabas is up to...

http://www.thegreenbutton.tv/forums/vie ... f=7&t=5587

The ETH by far isn't a stupid idea that wouldn't work; Baranabas is using a competitor's ethernet attached tuner and is proven technology at this point.

[richard1980]

All that HD video on a network just seems like trouble to me.

A gigabit connection operates at 1000 Mbps. The maximum bitrate of a TV stream (in the US) is about 20 Mbps. While you can't realistically expect to be able to transfer 50 streams (1000 / 20), you can certainly expect to be able to transfer much more than just the 6 streams the ETH offers.

[cybrsage]

Anyone know how much heat this baby puts out? The 4 tuner version put out a bit of heat and this one has 50% more tuners. Modern technology will allow it to be designed more efficiently, which is why I wonder. I now use the Eth6, but when I used the PCIe4 I had to have a fan blowing across it to move the heat out of the case.

[adam1991]

The ETH is also good if you wish to build a small HTPC, very much like what Barnabas is up to...

http://www.thegreenbutton.tv/forums/vie ... f=7&t=5587

The ETH by far isn't a stupid idea that wouldn't work; Baranabas is using a competitor's ethernet attached tuner and is proven technology at this point.

For the record, the ITV4/6 PCIe cards are *also* ethernet devices as far as the signal goes...

[barnabas1969]

Ethernet-attached tuners are actually a very good idea for several reasons. The network bandwidth, as Richard pointed out, is not a problem.

Here are some good reasons for a network-attached tuner:

1) You can build a tiny PC.
2) You can hide the tuner in a closet.
3) The tuners can be easily shared by multiple PC's.
4) If you have SDV, the tuning adapter plugs directly into the tuner's USB port (not into the PC's USB), which allows you to hide the tuning adapter in a closet along with the tuner.

I actually just purchased two dual-tuner HDHR3-US tuners (which are also network-attached tuners, but are QAM/ATSC instead of CableCARD), in addition to the two HD HomeRun PRIME tuners I already had. I haven't given the new PC a full load-test yet, because I haven't paired all of my extenders to it yet. But, I can tell you that I've tested my older, slower PC by recording 10 channels (6 from the HDHR Primes, and 4 from internal tuners), and also had all five of my extenders running too. So that's 11 HD streams going across my network. I don't remember the exact stats from the Windows Performance Monitor, but I can tell you that the network was nowhere near saturation (which occurs when the network is at 70-90% of it's rated capacity of 1 gigabit).

[mcewinter]

The ETH is also good if you wish to build a small HTPC, very much like what Barnabas is up to...

http://www.thegreenbutton.tv/forums/vie ... f=7&t=5587

The ETH by far isn't a stupid idea that wouldn't work; Baranabas is using a competitor's ethernet attached tuner and is proven technology at this point.

For the record, the ITV4/6 PCIe cards are *also* ethernet devices as far as the signal goes...

Your point is moot.

[cybrsage]

Anyone know how much heat this baby puts out? The 4 tuner version put out a bit of heat and this one has 50% more tuners. Modern technology will allow it to be designed more efficiently, which is why I wonder. I now use the Eth6, but when I used the PCIe4 I had to have a fan blowing across it to move the heat out of the case.

Hate quoting myself, but by now someone should own one of these and can comment on it.

[ceton 6]

The Ceton InfinTV 6 ETH pixlates when more than 4 channels are in use. I would think the PCIe and ETH would share the same primary parts. Ceton support has not been able to fix the problem that is over 30 days old or issue a RMA even after providing many diagnostic reports displaying the defect.

[The Mac]

The Ceton InfinTV 6 ETH pixlates when more than 4 channels are in use. I would think the PCIe and ETH would share the same primary parts. Ceton support has not been able to fix the problem that is over 30 days old or issue a RMA even after providing many diagnostic reports displaying the defect.

4?

try 3 for me on the PCIe-6

[RyC]

I'm definitely seeing major macroblocking and stuttering when I manually tune all 6 tuners to the same channel. But I can't think of a situation where I would be watching and recording 6 of the same channel. I just recorded 6 hour long shows (on at the same time), and watching them so far, none of them have issues. I did place a laptop cooler on the tuner, and temps are 10-15 degrees cooler. Maybe you can try a fan?

[The Mac]

This is the pcie version, i have a slot cooler next to the device, temps are in the 50s.

im talking about DIFFERENT channels, not the sames ones.

[xnappo]

I'm definitely seeing major macroblocking and stuttering when I manually tune all 6 tuners to the same channel. But I can't think of a situation where I would be watching and recording 6 of the same channel. I just recorded 6 hour long shows (on at the same time), and watching them so far, none of them have issues. I did place a laptop cooler on the tuner, and temps are 10-15 degrees cooler. Maybe you can try a fan?

The use-case here is for multiple HTPCs. You have your main HTPC record all your non-CCI protected content, and both HTPCs require CCI protected content.

This is actually the ONLY reason I would want more tuners.

xnappo

[RyC]

Good point, I hadn't thought of that since I only have one htpc doing all the recording.

[The Mac]

Wouldnt it just be easier to record all on the same HTPC and then run a script to query the metadata and move the CCI protected (or non-protected) content to a specific location?

[RyC]

Copy protected content can only be watched on the computer it was recorded on, so if you want the option to watch a copy protected show on all your HTPCs, they must all record their own copy.

On a side note, do you know of a script that can query the metadata and see if it's copy protected? I know DVRMSToolbox can, but if I could do it from the command line in a bat script, that would be great.

[foxwood]

I wrote some vbscripts that can query the Extended Properties of a WTV file. You should be able to modify it to query the Protected flag

http://www.thegreenbutton.tv/forums/vie ... 845#p43845