I would if it was possible, but unfortuanetly the rooms where the extenders are going are not wired. I know that wireless is not perfect, but I think the newer technology may be able to handle it. At least one of us should give it a go right? I'm cool with this turning into an experiment that has a chance to fail, its more exciting that way.erkotz wrote:Also keep in mind that if you connect any legacy (802.11g or 802.11b) devices to the network, it will slow it down. 802.11ac *MIGHT* be fast enough, but you may also find video breaks up when you use the microwave.
If MoCA is an option, go that route - your life will be much easier.
Can I hook up Echo Extender wirelessly?
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It's not all about the max throughput. It has a lot to do with latency, interference, and just the general design of wireless networking. A Media Center extender does no buffering... so it cannot handle periodic drop-outs of the signal. It's not the same was watching a YouTube or Netflix video.Ltalianguy wrote:Yes I am aware that its actually 450Mbps. I should have stated that I meant since its dual band you can have more devices at the 450Mbps theoretical max.Diverge wrote: Don't fall for the marketing BS. That 900Mbps is really just a theoretical 450Mbps. 450 for 2.4GHz band and 450 for the 5GHz band. Marketing intentionally misleads people by adding each band together.
If you're going to go with the AC routers, I suggest doing some reading beforehand on http://www.smallnetbuilder.com
But has anyone actually tested with 450Mbps? Looking at this review, the dual band 802.11-n router I mentioned earlier is showing a 70-110Mpbs throughput. I'm not shocked that 65Mbps theoretical max routers would have HD streaming issues, but I'm not so sure we can assume the 450Mbps has problems as well. And yeah that is the issue with 802.11ac, its still a bit early, probably better to hold off on 802.11ac until they're into 2nd or 3rd generation chipsets.
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Yes of course there are more factors than just throughput. All of those things you've mentioned are indeed affected by the wireless standard being used. But I think its worth finding out how well 450Mbps does (or doesn't) work. I'm going to give it a shot and we'll get some data on how well 450Mbps works.barnabas1969 wrote: It's not all about the max throughput. It has a lot to do with latency, interference, and just the general design of wireless networking. A Media Center extender does no buffering... so it cannot handle periodic drop-outs of the signal. It's not the same was watching a YouTube or Netflix video.
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If you guys want to see how good 450Mbps works in reality, just go to http://www.smallnetbuilder.com and search for the review on a particular router. For example, the Asus RT N66U router is one of the best dual band 450Mbs routers, but gets no were close to it theoretical 450Mbs speed. You're lucky if you get 100Mbs in certain situations. The extra stream really doesn't give it that much more then 2 streams.
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless ... l=&start=3
I'm not saying you guys won't have any success trying to use extenders wireless. Just saying the ratings on all routers are so out of wack and misleading.
edit: if anyone wants to try out AC routers, Newegg has a combo sale $200 for the router and AC wireless bridge. Although the router doesn't have the best reviews, and non of the 3rd party firmwares (DD-WRT or Tomato) are working fully for AC routers. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDeal ... D=10440897
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless ... l=&start=3
I'm not saying you guys won't have any success trying to use extenders wireless. Just saying the ratings on all routers are so out of wack and misleading.
edit: if anyone wants to try out AC routers, Newegg has a combo sale $200 for the router and AC wireless bridge. Although the router doesn't have the best reviews, and non of the 3rd party firmwares (DD-WRT or Tomato) are working fully for AC routers. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDeal ... D=10440897
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Wireless is not reliable and fast for your purpose. Wired net will be best for stream over networking. Most of phone service providers suggest to use at least cat5e cabling for gigabit internet connection. If you don't have space for installing wires then you can use flat cables. You can lay them under carpets. Rest of choice is depend on you.
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I have been running it wirelessly as long as I've had it with a Netgear WNDR4500 and a xbox 360-S before it. Works fine with my Trendnet TEW-680MB. I now have another echo and an Netgear R6300v2 AC router and use a Linksys WUMC710 in another room at the same time.
I have been running it wirelessly as long as I've had it with a Netgear WNDR4500 and a xbox 360-S before it. Works fine with my Trendnet TEW-680MB. I now have another echo and an Netgear R6300v2 AC router and use a Linksys WUMC710 in another room at the same time.
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I have Ceton Echo extenders hooked up with both of these products:
http://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Etherne ... 008EQ4BQG/
http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Universal ... B005N6XBDO
The MOCA adapter is more expensive but you don't need to worry about wireless quality. The wireless adapter is dual band. I have a dual band router and use the 5 MHz band and have no problems in a room that's about 30 feet and one floor away from the router. Netgear makes a cheaper wireless N adapter that's only single band, and might have more interference if your neighbors are close.
http://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Etherne ... 008EQ4BQG/
http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Universal ... B005N6XBDO
The MOCA adapter is more expensive but you don't need to worry about wireless quality. The wireless adapter is dual band. I have a dual band router and use the 5 MHz band and have no problems in a room that's about 30 feet and one floor away from the router. Netgear makes a cheaper wireless N adapter that's only single band, and might have more interference if your neighbors are close.
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DECA is a great, cheap alternative to MOCA ($10 per node). Same speed, but can't coexist with cable TV signals. Not a problem for us WMC and extender users. I have a house full of these, and they work beautifully. They're designed for DirecTV, but it doesn't matter. They still work great.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-DirecTV-Bro ... 1227773833
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Interesting, I just moved into a new house and am having mixed results with poweline adapters for those rooms that I can't fish Cat6 to. I was looking at MOCA adapters when I came across this post. Do these run in pairs only, or can you run several off of one 'port' using cable splitter?mdavej wrote:DECA is a great, cheap alternative to MOCA ($10 per node). Same speed, but can't coexist with cable TV signals. Not a problem for us WMC and extender users. I have a house full of these, and they work beautifully. They're designed for DirecTV, but it doesn't matter. They still work great.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-DirecTV-Bro ... 1227773833
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You can run any number off a splitter if you like. All mine are essentially tied together via a couple of splitters. Just plug them in and they figure out their role (gateway or client). Should work the same a MOCA (except for the frequencies). I used them because they're cheap and I already had some left over from when I used to have DirecTV.Jay wrote:Interesting, I just moved into a new house and am having mixed results with poweline adapters for those rooms that I can't fish Cat6 to. I was looking at MOCA adapters when I came across this post. Do these run in pairs only, or can you run several off of one 'port' using cable splitter?mdavej wrote:DECA is a great, cheap alternative to MOCA ($10 per node). Same speed, but can't coexist with cable TV signals. Not a problem for us WMC and extender users. I have a house full of these, and they work beautifully. They're designed for DirecTV, but it doesn't matter. They still work great.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-DirecTV-Bro ... 1227773833