Are HD OTA recordings viewable on SD TV via Xbox?

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Are HD OTA recordings viewable on SD TV via Xbox?

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Post by OneBigTree » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:29 pm

Are HD OTA recordings viewable on an analog TV?

I’ve been using a laptop with W7 WMC as a DVR to record HD OTA for the past year. Overall this has worked great with my family room HDTV.

Now I’d like to use an Xbox 360 as an extender to view my WMC content on an analog TV in my bedroom (I will use MOCA to network the Xbox to my laptop). The SD TV in the bedroom has composite connectors I will use to connect the Xbox. Will this work?

The core question I have is – will the Xbox convert HD content to SD so it’s viewable on my analog set?

I’m brand new to this forum and searched for previous postings of this sort. Please pardon me if I missed postings that have addressed this issue already.

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Post by mdavej » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:37 pm

Yep. As long as you still have tho old composite cable that came with your Xbox.

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Post by DrSmith » Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:21 pm

SD support, something else besides MCE that the Xbox 360 does better than XBox One.
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Post by adam1991 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:01 am

absolutely. Been watching HD cable shows on my 1988 Panasonic TV for 4 years now.

hey, it's a basement TV in front of the treadmill...

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Post by Crash2009 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:51 am

adam1991 wrote:absolutely. Been watching HD cable shows on my 1988 Panasonic TV for 4 years now.

hey, it's a basement TV in front of the treadmill...
I'm not knocking it, I have a 1986 warming a cold corner of my bsmt. I put my old 1977 Pioneer amp there too.

I'm going to get an old noisy hot XBOX to go with it.
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Post by adam1991 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:02 am

Stick some temperature sensors on top of the xbox and the amp, and see who wins that particular race...

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Post by DrSmith » Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:34 pm

adam1991 wrote:Been watching HD cable shows on my 1988 Panasonic TV for 4 years now
Crash2009 wrote:I have a 1986 warming a cold corner of my bsmt.
You guys probably win some sort of prize here. I thought I had an old set with a 2003 Panny plasma still showing WMC over VGA.

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Post by OneBigTree » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:24 pm

The Xbox's ability to down-convert HD WMC content to SD for my old Panny SD TV set is great news!

The only reason I've kept TWC's bare-bones "starter" cable is so I can use that old TV. Now I can cut TWC and go completely with OTA and streaming via my WMC-dedicated laptop.

I may be one of the last holdouts for Replay and (SD) Tivo and I will finally retire those machines. While I liked Replay the best, WMC has grown on me and I'm happy with it.

My Xbox 360e is still new in an unopened box. I bought it on a Black Friday deal for $99 in hopes of using it as an extender. It came with composite cables, so I guess I'm good to go. Now to figure out MoCA networking so I can connect the Xbox with my WMC laptop.

Thanks All for your comments.

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Post by mdavej » Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:02 pm

If you want to save a few bucks (sounds like you do since you still have SD TVs), check out DECA too.
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/26-home-t ... nders.html

And if you don't have a remote for the Xbox, you'll probably want to get one instead of using a game controller to watch TV. I like the RCA RCRP05B since it's cheap and can control your TV and Xbox and do macros so you can turn both on and off at the same time. But your cable TV remote can probably control both as well. The Xbox code for most cable remotes is DVD 1708 (or 21708) or CBL 1805 (or 01805). Cable remotes can also do macros, and you can reassign the buttons any way you wish. You can also get a Microsoft remote for Xbox, but it isn't quite as versatile as a universal. If you go that route, get the old version, not the newest because the newest is missing a couple of important functions.

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Post by Crash2009 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:49 pm

OneBigTree wrote: Now to figure out MoCA networking so I can connect the Xbox with my WMC laptop.
You more than likely will need a couple MoCa POE Filters. I knew about the one on the main line in. The boss says you need another just before, where the coax connects to the tuner in a CableCard setup. A filter is likely, although I'm not positive, for an OTA/MoCa setup.

Here are a couple Diagrams, and 20 suggestions you can use toward your research. http://www.avsforum.com/forum/39-networ ... st22003510

Apparently this diagram is NOT the proper way to cable it.
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Post by mdavej » Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:12 am

I made my MoCA network completely isolated from my incoming line, so no filters are needed. You may want to consider the same.

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Post by RyC » Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:18 am

If you use DECA, you must isolate it since I believe it operates in the same frequencies as cable & OTA.

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Post by adam1991 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:03 am

DrSmith wrote:
adam1991 wrote:Been watching HD cable shows on my 1988 Panasonic TV for 4 years now
Crash2009 wrote:I have a 1986 warming a cold corner of my bsmt.
You guys probably win some sort of prize here. I thought I had an old set with a 2003 Panny plasma still showing WMC over VGA.

It gets even better: my 88 Panasonic, I got WITHOUT the stereo option.

And THAT meant it came with nothing more than a single RF input.

I have XBox and Roku both going through a Phillips composite to RF converter, spitting it out to NTSC channel 3. Roku is the default signal, unless the XBox turns on at which point it auto switches to the xBox.

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Post by Crash2009 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:05 am

You can mix Satellite TV and Ethernet in DeCA. You can mix Cable TV and Ethernet in MoCA. You can use either DeCA or MoCA Ethernet if it is isolated. Ethernet DeCA specs are approx. 100 mbps, MoCA 1 will give you around 300 mbps, MoCA 2 will get you up around 800 mbps (nearly GIG).

Where in the frequency spectrum does OTA TV fit?

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Post by Crash2009 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:13 am

adam1991 wrote:
DrSmith wrote:
adam1991 wrote:Been watching HD cable shows on my 1988 Panasonic TV for 4 years now
Crash2009 wrote:I have a 1986 warming a cold corner of my bsmt.
You guys probably win some sort of prize here. I thought I had an old set with a 2003 Panny plasma still showing WMC over VGA.

It gets even better: my 88 Panasonic, I got WITHOUT the stereo option.

And THAT meant it came with nothing more than a single RF input.

I have XBox and Roku both going through a Phillips composite to RF converter, spitting it out to NTSC channel 3. Roku is the default signal, unless the XBox turns on at which point it auto switches to the xBox.
Nice touch!

I'm just doing sound the old fashioned way. RCA to Pioneer to Cerwin Vega. That's another reason it's in the basement. The sound draws a crowd.

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Post by adam1991 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:08 am

hehehe What kind of turntable do you have hooked up to that rig?

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Post by Crash2009 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:40 pm

adam1991 wrote:hehehe What kind of turntable do you have hooked up to that rig?
Technics SL 1400

For those who haven't been down to the Turntable Museum in awhile, the SL 1400 is gear driven as opposed to belt.

http://www.usaudiomart.com/details/6490 ... es/492700/

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