Samsung Ativ Q *drool*

[staknhalo]

http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/20/44489 ... oid-tablet

Windows 8 (not RT), Android 4.2.2, Haswell, 3200 x 1800 resolution. Want.

[erkotz]

Why won't they start putting these screens on normal laptops. If I could buy a commercial PC laptop with something similar to the Macbook Retina display on it, I would be all over it.

[adam1991]

You can, it's called a Macbook Pro with Retina Display...

[staknhalo]

You can, it's called a Macbook Pro with Retina Display...

Yeah, but then you have the Mac tax and the cost of a Windows licence on top of that. You can legitimately argue that a screen like this would only be on an ultrabook, which are sometimes just barely cheaper than a Mac; if cheaper at all - but still, more is more. Plus, maybe he wants one with an internal BR drive or something. Which he would then need a regular old laptop.

erkotz - it will come; when these screen become all the norm. Then you'll be wanting something else

[adam1991]

What you call the "Apple tax" is really just a well-made piece (arguably better than what anyone else makes) backed up by a support organization second to none.

Does Apple screw up with their hardware? Yes, sometimes. But as it is everywhere in life, it's not that you screw up--it's how you recover from that. Other manufacturers just dump their problems on you, saying "tough, deal with it". Apple takes ownership and fixes their screwups.

The fact is, outside of Apple you don't even have the *choice* of buying from a manufacturer who gives a damn about anything beyond trying to hawk the cheapest price thing.

Until you've experienced Apple's service and taking ownership of any problems they may have caused, you can't really know how nice it is. You can't really know how nice it is to walk in to an Apple store with a malfunctioning laptop and hear the words, "come back this afternoon, I'll have that handled for you".

If paying more for a quality product and attentive service is a "tax" in a world where Dell et al. put crap in a box and then later don't answer the phone and want you to go blow, then go ahead and tax me all day long.

[rantanamo]

I know you don't really believe that. Its 2013. not 2005.

[staknhalo]

The fact is, outside of Apple you don't even have the *choice* of buying from a manufacturer who gives a damn about anything beyond trying to hawk the cheapest price thing.

Lol. Kinda says it all right there. How does the kool-aid taste?

Adam, I can show you just as many negative customer reviews/experiences with Apple products/support as you can positive. They're just another company; nothing special about them.

[adam1991]

Oh, the stories I could tell....

btw, I specifically went Android with Square warranty instead of iPhone. It's not a kool-aid thing, it's 20+ years of personal experience with their computers.

[erkotz]

What you call the "Apple tax" is really just a well-made piece (arguably better than what anyone else makes) backed up by a support organization second to none.

Does Apple screw up with their hardware? Yes, sometimes. But as it is everywhere in life, it's not that you screw up--it's how you recover from that. Other manufacturers just dump their problems on you, saying "tough, deal with it". Apple takes ownership and fixes their screwups.

The fact is, outside of Apple you don't even have the *choice* of buying from a manufacturer who gives a damn about anything beyond trying to hawk the cheapest price thing.

Until you've experienced Apple's service and taking ownership of any problems they may have caused, you can't really know how nice it is. You can't really know how nice it is to walk in to an Apple store with a malfunctioning laptop and hear the words, "come back this afternoon, I'll have that handled for you".

If paying more for a quality product and attentive service is a "tax" in a world where Dell et al. put crap in a box and then later don't answer the phone and want you to go blow, then go ahead and tax me all day long.

I actually have experienced Apple's "service". I had an iBook G3 many moons ago that had one of the logic board recall issues. It went back and forth for repair 7 times right after each other. Each time it came back, they would fix one thing, and break two more. Literally one time it came back and didn't even turn on. To their credit, Apple did ultimately replace the machine - but it took them 3 months from when it first went in to resolve it.

Anyway, my goal wasn't to bash Apple, but Apple isn't a commercial machine. No TPM. No on-site service. Etc. Apple doesn't meet my shopping requirements, even aside from it being a Mac.

[adam1991]

What manufacturers are you looking at that offer on-site service?

[newfiend]

What manufacturers are you looking at that offer on-site service?

I like to build my own PC's and be my own "on site service" ..lol

[adam1991]

yeah, but I dare you to build this:

http://www.apple.com/macbook-air/

[newfiend]

yeah, but I dare you to build this:

http://www.apple.com/macbook-air/

But I can't play Crysis on that...

[adam1991]

Are you *sure*?

[staknhalo]

Are you *sure*?

Yes. Unless you're going to play on low at a low resolution. The Air has a HD 5000. Here are benchmarks for the HD 5200. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6993/inte ... -tested/11

Also, we couldn't build an Air just as much as you couldn't build any other Ultrabook/laptop.

[adam1991]

well, that was pretty much my point. You *can't* build what Apple sells.

[staknhalo]

But you're implying you can build what other companies sell. You can't - so that statement isn't meaningful is what I'm getting at

[adam1991]

no, *I* wasn't.